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Post by Martin Ryan » Sat May 10, 2008 10:02 am

I'd like to add a wiki to this site. I ultimately see it as an online documentation tool. Does anyone have any experience with good (free) wiki software? I'd prefer it to run PHP and be on MySQL or text file based.

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Re: Wiki tools

Post by Paul Segal » Wed May 14, 2008 11:45 am

I'd have thought Mediawiki or Tikkiwiki would be the front runners - both are PHP and use MySql as the backend, with the option of Postgres.

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Post by Martin Ryan » Thu May 15, 2008 12:45 am

The wiki is up and running http://wiki.olapforums.com. I've taken Jim up on his excellent idea and called it Olapedia.

Happy wikking (or whatever the verb is).

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Post by Martin Ryan » Mon May 19, 2008 3:15 am

Somebody (Jim I think) was asking about editing the menus. I don't think you can. I can't see any obvious way for me to do when I'm logged in as an Administrator, and I also can't see anyway of making other users administrators.

If I stumble across anything I'll let you know, but as far as I can see every body has got pretty much the same access to do everything.

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Post by Martin Ryan » Mon May 19, 2008 3:20 am

*Crash bang smack*. Moments later I do stumble across something.

User rights was hiding down the bottom of the special pages. I've made everyone who's currently a registered user a "Bureaucrat" and a "Sysop". No idea what either of those do though...

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Post by Alan Kirk » Mon May 19, 2008 6:32 am

Martin Ryan wrote:*Crash bang smack*. Moments later I do stumble across something.

User rights was hiding down the bottom of the special pages. I've made everyone who's currently a registered user a "Bureaucrat"
Don't look at me, there ain't no way in the hot place that I'm going back to work for the Public Circus, er, I mean Service again..
Martin Ryan wrote: and a "Sysop". No idea what either of those do though...
I've noticed that I now have "Move" (allowing a title to be renamed) and "Protect" tabs, which I'm sure weren't there before.

(I know this because someone (who wasn't logged in, and just appears as an IP address) posted a suggestion that a couple of titles be renamed. I'm not sure that I agree, but it was immaterial at that point anyway because I couldn't find any way of doing it. It's the Move tab which unlocks that feature.)

I don't think that the [Delete] tab was there before either.
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Post by Martin Ryan » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:35 pm

If you're looking for a way to pass away the hours then have a look at what you can contribute here: http://wiki.olapforums.com/index.php?ti ... antedpages

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Re: Wiki tools

Post by jim wood » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:59 am

Martin,

I don't know how to do it within the wiki but I feel it would benefit from having a product / company memu down the side. It may also benefit from some base definition part menu, for example cube,

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Post by Martin Ryan » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:24 am

Not quite sure I follow you Jim, but I've altered the main page to have "Key Concepts", "Products" and "Companies". Is this the kind of thing you mean?

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Re: Wiki tools

Post by jim wood » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:33 am

Hi Martin,

Looks good to me. It's exactly what I was on about. What I meant by meu was adding it to the navigation menu on the left of every page. (I have worked with JSP wiki before and the menu can be customised to include things like cascading menus etc..)

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Post by Martin Ryan » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:15 am

jim wood wrote:What I meant by meu was adding it to the navigation menu on the left of every page
Done. For those interested the main page to edit was index.php?NOSPAMtitle=MediaWiki:Sidebar

After editing that I had to update the variables the Sidebar referred to, e.g.
index.php?NOSPAMtitle=MediaWiki:Products-url
index.php?NOSPAMtitle=MediaWiki:Products

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Re: Wiki tools

Post by Mike L » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:37 pm

Since Olapedia launched at http://wiki.olapforums.com 90 days ago, 13 registered users have created and contributed to 90 articles thus far.

Longest article: 19,496 bytes
  • Shortest: 54 bytes
    Mean: 2,599 bytes
    Median: 1,179 bytes
New articles created by month
  • May: 36
    June: none
    July: 54
    August: none yet, but half the month still remains....

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Re: Wiki tools

Post by Alan Kirk » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:57 pm

Mike L wrote:Since Olapedia launched at http://wiki.olapforums.com 90 days ago, 13 registered users have created and contributed to 90 articles thus far.
{Snip}
August: none yet, but half the month still remains....
Yeah, I for one have been rather slack of late; I have some articles partly written, but just haven't had time to finish them. That and the fact that a picture is sometimes worth a thousand words, but sometimes it'd be just easier to put up a picture...
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Re: Wiki tools

Post by Mike L » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:07 am

One of my New Year's resolutions for 2009 is to reduce my internet watchlist by 75%.
Olapedia did not make the cut, for obvious reasons: (1) it is no longer active, having no new articles since July, and (2) since none of the administrators are policing it, spammers are turning it into a link farm. It was a good idea, but there doesn't seem to be lasting community interest. It might be best to just close it down.

As they say, out with the old and in with the new. Happy New Year everyone.

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Post by Alan Kirk » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:59 am

Mike L wrote:One of my New Year's resolutions for 2009 is to reduce my internet watchlist by 75%.
Olapedia did not make the cut, for obvious reasons: (1) it is no longer active, having no new articles since July, and (2) since none of the administrators are policing it, spammers are turning it into a link farm. It was a good idea, but there doesn't seem to be lasting community interest. It might be best to just close it down.

As they say, out with the old and in with the new. Happy New Year everyone.
I'm not sure we should give up on it just yet; I have to admit that I have a bit of guilt here because ever since I created a bookmark which leads straight to the Forums, I've been bypassing the other parts of the site which I should have been casting more of an administrative eye over as well. {Slaps hand} BAD me. Perhaps 2009 will bring more opportunities to do more with the site.

It'll depend on how many of us are out of a gig before the recovery comes, I guess... :shock:
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Re: Wiki tools

Post by Martin Ryan » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:57 am

I've been meaning to change it so that at least you had to be registered in order to make a change. I've found the parameter, just need to remember to do it at home as I don't have access at work.

Fair enough Mike, it hasn't worked out as we originally intended. I'll still make that change when I get a chance and remember, but I'm not sure that'll save it from a slow death.

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Post by Martin Ryan » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:15 am

I've now added in a parameter that requires users to verify their email address before editing a page. As I say, I don't think that'll necessarily save Olapedia but it hopefully will at least mean the stuff that is currently there won't be turned in spam filled wasteland.

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